This is the tran­script of my inter­view with Major Ed Dames sev­eral weeks back — I asked some of the ques­tions that peo­ple sent in that they wanted to hear an answer from Ed Dames, so read on — if you sub­mit­ted a ques­tion, you might just find your answer here!

In case you missed it, you can down­load your copy of the audio record­ing here.

Michael Jura: Now this ques­tion comes from Camilla and Rodger, how could you be sure that what you think you were per­ceiv­ing at these meet­ings was actu­ally accu­rate and true?

Major Ed Dames: We can only be sure the way that any­body else and any other skill can be sure, we have to train, and train and train and train, and after six months of train­ing or more, of tar­gets where the feed back is known.

For instance if I were to remote view your mother’s birth­place, and then you tell me yes, you’re right or no you’re wrong; and we keep doing that until we get it right every sin­gle time, that’s the way we can be sure that when we work against unknowns, because that’s what we are train­ing to do, solve for an unknown.

That’s the way that we are sure that we are right, 100% right, that we have been 100% right for six months or more under con­trolled con­di­tions, and these are blind targets.

The trainee is not told what the tar­get is, they are not told at all, uncon­scious must do all of the work, no think­ing allowed. Only after we do that for months at a time, can we be sure that when we solve our unknown that the unknown is correct.

Michael Jura: I see, now that’s fas­ci­nat­ing. So, was there any­thing you gained from remote view­ing these Soviet meet­ings that was later ver­i­fied fac­tu­ally to be true?

Major Ed Dames: Oh yes, many things. Two things I can think of off hand, the for­mer Soviet Union was the Salyut Space sta­tion; what we derived from our work against these meet­ings was that the Salyut space sta­tion was going to be used as an oper­at­ing base for exoat­mos­pheric fighter planes.

In other words, the Soviet fighter plans to oper­ate from space sta­tions; they would actu­ally dock and park in the Salyut 7 and they would achieve the high ground that way. And the other thing was a secret logis­tics tail in Afghanistan that we did not know about. Under­ground stor­age for weapons or equip­ment, things like that.

Michael Jura: That’s fascinating.

Major Ed Dames: But in these days and times, peo­ple use remote view­ing for med­ical rea­sons, to find miss­ing dogs and cats; yes we still use it to track nuclear weapons that might be stolen and things like that, but it has prac­ti­cal day to day uses as well.

Michael Jura: I see. Okay this ques­tion comes from Jonathan Davies, and it’s sort of related to what you just men­tioned. When you are view­ing these meet­ings in the Soviet Union, is there any way that they could engage a psy­chic spy who could also be at those meet­ings and detect when a remote viewer projects his aware­ness into the meeting?

Major Ed Dames: Actu­ally, that was the case. They did know about us, and what they had was a Soviet extrasen­sor. The Russ­ian extrasen­sor team was equiv­a­lent to our Amer­i­can sized spy unit.

The Rus­sians did not know how to train this, they never dis­cov­ered the pro­to­cols to do that, but what they did instead was they used very, very gifted nat­ural psy­chics and trained them against US secret equip­ment and operations.

They would post one or two of those peo­ple at the meet­ings and if one of those peo­ple felt, right or wrong that they were being “pinged” so to speak by us, they would stop every body talking.

Michael Jura: Wow, that’s amaz­ing, it reminds me of a story I read in one of the books by Robert Mon­roe, when he talked about how he was doing Astral trav­el­ing while vaca­tion­ing in the Caribbean, and it turned out that dur­ing one of his trav­els he came across a CIA agent, and the CIA agent told him sorry, you can’t go any fur­ther the pres­i­dent is here; and it turned out that the pres­i­dent of the US, I can’t remem­ber which
pres­i­dent it was at that time–

Major Ed Dames: It was Rea­gan. Bob came to me at one point in the pro­gram in the mid 80s and he was very dis­turbed, very, very upset because he could not sleep, because he felt that there were 3 Russ­ian peo­ple that every time he tried to sleep, were look­ing at him.

Well, to make a long story short, I took my team and fol­lowed that back when back to Robert Munroe’s dream and looked back and it was indeed the Rus­sians. The Rus­sians were look­ing for the US psy­chic team, and what they found was Robert Munroe because we were using, my unit was using Bob Munroe’s gate­way pro­gram to vet and assess recruits for our program.

We were spend­ing so much time down there, with Bob, in his out of body, that the Rus­sians felt that he was the commander!

Michael Jura: Wow.

Major Ed Dames: That’s why he couldn’t sleep, because the Rus­sians kept ping­ing him think­ing that he was in charge of the pro­gram, when in fact, we were using his pro­gram to assess  whether or not peo­ple would be good for our own program.

Michael Jura: I see, wow. And did the Sovi­ets ever, I mean did you get any death threats from the Soviet or did they ever try to recruit you over to their side–

Major Ed Dames: Oh no– in fact two things; what hap­pened is at one point the oper­a­tions offi­cer, a civil­ian Ivan Sokolav who I later met after the cold war was over, my counter part. And that was an inter­est­ing meet­ing. He knew that we knew about them.

His team started to report back to him that the Amer­i­cans are look­ing at us, and the Amer­i­cans know we are look­ing at them.

Well nei­ther I as the oper­a­tions and train­ing man­ager of the Amer­i­can unit; I didn’t tell my com­man­der this, because I knew that if told him he would shut us down and Ivan Sokolav did not tell the Colonel that was in charge of the Russ­ian extrasense pro­gram that we knew about them because they would be shut down, and we didn’t want our oper­a­tions to cease.