Okay, so if you're like most people out there, chances are you've seen Inception. And if you haven't, don't worry, I'm not going to give away any spoiler alerts. But even though I saw it, paid attention, and sat through the entire thing, I've got a confession: I don't get it.
I mean, I get the gist of it. I get the whole implanting an idea in someone's brain thing. I get the general story. But there's also a lot that I just don't understand.
And I don't think I'm the only one who feels this way either. But before I go any further, for those who haven't seen it, check out the trailer. It's really good.
This movie toys a lot with reality and dreams and the blending of the two so yes, there are parts that get a little tricky. I'm not saying I didn't like the movie. I loved it. And I really recommend you go see it, but just don't expect to get a clear cut Disney beginning, middle and end.
But here's my big question for you. Do you think this is possible? How secure are our minds and consciousness? Is it possible for someone to penetrate our minds and take and give ideas? It's a slightly unnerving topic but I wanted to get your opinions on this.
Drop a comment and tell me what your interpretation of the movie was and how weak or strong is the security of our mind.
I'm really excited to get a discussion going on about this. I usually don't care for the big Hollywood blockbusters but this one really surprised me.
Can the difference between a Homo Sapien and Human Being be defined by viewing the Homo Sapien as the vehicle for the Human Being? Can there be Homo Sapiens walking about that are not Human Beings?
I wrote a long comment but forgot to put in my email and somehow my message was discarded in the process so I will just say, I haven't seen the movie yet and although I wouldn't really want to watch violence I think I could detach myself from it to see the rest. I beleive thoughts and dreams can be interefered wtih, most definitely. I suspect mine have been from time to time. Although I watch my waking thoughts, its more difficult in sleep and during dreams. I have been using affirmations before going to sleep to help prevent this as well as listeing to Gerald's CDs. I've recently begun studying psychology and being in a large lecture theatre with so many people around me, there must be some connection going on between minds. I listened to the audio of one of the lectures and the buzz of voices before it began was just a bit disquieting. Why? I don't know I didn't sense anything while I was there. Of course, being a creative person, writing and performing, I could just be a little over-imaginative Anyway, thanks for this discussion and I've enjoyed the comments of others.
lol pls let i tell you what ok; first of all there's no such thing as absolute value in this world we live in also there's nothing is absolute; therfore i can say to right now my mind is solid like a rock with what i know but then again what i know is not always absolute; therefore when new knowldge is presented for me to learn & it makes perfectly common senes to me at the time then i will bow to it & i am totally entillted to change my mind any time i want it too lol. so your question is out of the question my friend. i hope you got my point & i am open for discussion. Thx for letting me in on it
I haven't watch the movie yet. But it does seem very interesting
Personally I think that our minds are not completely secure. In a sense yes we can control our thoughts but at the same time our thoughts are normally influence.
I think it can also relate to being in a hypnotic state. Anyone can do a hypnosis and we can actually do that to ourselves.
I saw the movie, and while it had its interesting and real moments, it did go deep into the "what-ifs" to provide a storyline that would help conceptualize this topic with the masses easily... I believe that our minds are as secure as we individually wnat them to be.
The movie shows that in the future there are even more ways to crush your spirit. We are constantly assulted with brain washing from the 12 mins of comercials to 5 mins show all the way the Fox spin on political events and what The PTA or home owners association wants. its all around us!!! The 6% that control 90% of wealth keep us in check....
I Haven't watch the movie yet, but I think that mind is able to protect some kind of information not all, the information that you have in your mind now in this life, if you believe in reincarnation, maybe is vulnerable, someone could influence it and give a kind of commands in order that you do things that in your regular behave don't do it, sometimes don't do things to force in a very soft way they guide you to do certain kind of things.
It actually happens that I've had the experience of waking up within a dream... only to wake up within THAT dream yet again... and had this experience repeated up to 7 times before I found myself back in my bedroom literally with eyes wide open, my room slowly coming into focus.
That may sound odd but it was a spontaneous event. I wasn't trying to "have" that experience, or even studying about dreaming at that time, it simply happened.
That said I've always considered myself an avid dreamer. The greatest early hurdle for me was overcoming some culturally implanted fears about dreaming, such as "if you're falling through space in your dream and hit the ground, you'll die", etc.
Not true. I've fallen in my dreams, landed (hit ground), flown under my own willpower, been shot (fatally), met what I would only call "satan", etc. -- and I'm still here, very much so.
Drop the cultural baggage, lose your fears, free your mind, and you WILL become a very strong and powerful dreamer. That's about all I can add to the conversation, except that as a strong and wilfull, honest dreamer, there will be very little any individual can do to overcome your basic nature while dreaming -- you'll simply leave the dream, or "fly away" to greener pastures if that happens, and generally speaking you'll be aware of that dream event in real time, so you can actually review any discomfortable ideas that attempted to make their way past your dreaming mind.
Everyone should try it, simply because it works. I highly recommend it, and you have nothing to lose by trying -- simply acknowledge it's possible, and then allow it to happen.
I haven't seen the movie, yet. But I've seen the trailers and read plenty of SF Books involving similar things. All the comments are very good and thought provoking. Consider this: When you talk with someone, what makes them more persuasive than someone else. Is it their voice? What about their body language? Do you pay attention to their logic or facts? Have you considered that it might be their use of "mind energy"? Their projection of a thought into your mind.
The vast majority of persuasive people are only able to influence people they can actually see, that is - in person. Get them on the phone and they have lost their influence. A small percentage of these can influence people they are actually talking with - on the phone. Recordings don't work nearly as well, they require a more active participation on the part of the listener.
A "remote viewer" is just that - remote, not actually there, and therefore unable to effect what and who they are viewing. A "remote projector" on the other hand can influence and effect others. It is this person who could possibly accomplish this. In a dream? Very possible. In the persons own thoughts? Yes. My own experience tells me this can be done. But while everyone is capable of remote viewing, the experts say only a small percentage of people can remotely project.
But how to protect yourself from someone doing it to you? I have erected shields around my mind and body that I keep active at all times. I have verified that they work through friends that are able and experienced in such things. I did this in 1976 and have kept them active since. They do not stop everything (physically), but they do protect my mind and body from the "influence" of others. I have also put shields in place around the house to protect my family. My advice, don't panic - focus.
i dont know if makes any sence but Iv gatherd so far is the idea of the opposit of our vision of reality for exampel if we know our futuer an whats going to happen (quoat) as a fact ? (unquoat) then simpely allow it to happen than thats whats going to happen but if' per say we somehow change what we know will happen then we could a tottely opposit efect good or bad . i dont know how right or wrong i am its just my view pleas comment.
Once we quiet our mind we receive information, visions that are just as powerful as the outside influences. Where is this information coming from? We know from the mystery schools that we can focus ourself on this power we have and play with this information, we can intensify it and make it more frequent. If you question this reality, as I do you, immerse yourself in this information coming in from the ethers. When you do you will find out that what is out there and available to your can be beautiful and be scary and can be more that you can handle. It will influence you, it will change you you may try to control it and find there are elements outside of our normal plane of existence that can influence you if you come into contact with them. What is even more scary is no one seems to be concerned about that. Most of you are still concerned about what is on TV....I beg you to wake up there is a whole universe out there that most of you seem to be oblivious to.
my name is mr capps two years ago astrologers from the dark side of the matrix would enter my dream state and try to induce dreams some even sent demons but the real good news is noone can coerce anyone to do anything control of our own minds saves the day the american monk explains this stuff well if i can control myself and no am not always succesful but that is the one key above all others then you are ok ive studied the occult sciences in and out you are still a free moral agent and no we wre not a prisoner here serving others is fine but the catholic church the greatest harbinger of evil ever so be of good cheer read some david icke books make the so called controllers nervous make them sweat then stuff changes my name is jerry capps
hello dear jura.
i havent seen the movie, so i cant post a coment abuot it,
but i can coment your qestion.
yeas i think that there are people who can influense our minds.
they can contact us and talk to us in our minds.
both consiusly and subconsionsly.
(hope u can read my spelling)
we are al possible victims of the ones who are in touch ore knowe the secred of
entering ones mind.
i think they have equipment that buzz in on our brains frekwenzy and both pick up
and send info,on.
I just saw the movie and though I thought the plot was overly convoluted, and it was overlong in general, I loved the themes. In fact the CIA actually used 'remote viewers' in the past doing something reminiscent of what these characters do. It also had themes of lucid dreaming, which is a very real occurrence, which I have experienced, and some people can train themselves to do. It was right on in the concept of a 'totem' that triggers you in the dream; that is indeed how it works: you find a symbol or object that you agree before you sleep will be your 'sign' that tells you are dreaming, then you become 'lucid', and then can control what you do in the dream. In my case it was a mirror or reflective surface - if I saw that in the dream and went up to it and looked into my own eyes, I would 'flip' into lucidity. Also the sensation of 'falling' and the thundering sensations the movie showed, does happen when one 'goes back' into ones body. Not all science fiction here by any means. Leonard DiCaprio is making some wonderful and fascinating choices lately.
my name is jerry capps a few years ago the 13 witches who govern the dark side of the matrix and enter a persons dream state and yes influence it remember thoughts have energy however if a person has real good control of selfyou can aounter this yes tis possible but once you know game over dump fear the mind controllers know me and i them so checkmate thier is a power above all this so have hope
"Waking" life is a paradox dream...a complex, collaborative dream in which THE ONE is multiplied into infinite separate focused entities. We are actually the ONE experiencing itself as the many....pure beautiful genius!
Remote Influencing is real. We are like wireless receptors. Inception conveys emotions so sophisticate it might be just a matter of time before we as civilians can access conceivable technology and resources.
We also lack that type of training, but what about skilled oneironauts? Joseph Mcmoneagle did run TRNs from a lucid dream at Stanford, Dr. LaBerge was his monitor.
I would LOVE to achieve that level of expertise.
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