Remote Viewing Russian Spy Psychics - Major Ed Dames Interview
This is the transcript of my interview with Major Ed Dames several weeks back - I asked some of the questions that people sent in that they wanted to hear an answer from Ed Dames, so read on - if you submitted a question, you might just find your answer here!
In case you missed it, you can download your copy of the audio recording here.
Michael Jura: Now this question comes from Camilla and Rodger, how could you be sure that what you think you were perceiving at these meetings was actually accurate and true?
Major Ed Dames: We can only be sure the way that anybody else and any other skill can be sure, we have to train, and train and train and train, and after six months of training or more, of targets where the feed back is known.
For instance if I were to remote view your mother’s birthplace, and then you tell me yes, you’re right or no you’re wrong; and we keep doing that until we get it right every single time, that’s the way we can be sure that when we work against unknowns, because that’s what we are training to do, solve for an unknown.
That’s the way that we are sure that we are right, 100% right, that we have been 100% right for six months or more under controlled conditions, and these are blind targets.
The trainee is not told what the target is, they are not told at all, unconscious must do all of the work, no thinking allowed. Only after we do that for months at a time, can we be sure that when we solve our unknown that the unknown is correct.
Michael Jura: I see, now that’s fascinating. So, was there anything you gained from remote viewing these Soviet meetings that was later verified factually to be true?
Major Ed Dames: Oh yes, many things. Two things I can think of off hand, the former Soviet Union was the Salyut Space station; what we derived from our work against these meetings was that the Salyut space station was going to be used as an operating base for exoatmospheric fighter planes.
In other words, the Soviet fighter plans to operate from space stations; they would actually dock and park in the Salyut 7 and they would achieve the high ground that way. And the other thing was a secret logistics tail in Afghanistan that we did not know about. Underground storage for weapons or equipment, things like that.
Michael Jura: That’s fascinating.
Major Ed Dames: But in these days and times, people use remote viewing for medical reasons, to find missing dogs and cats; yes we still use it to track nuclear weapons that might be stolen and things like that, but it has practical day to day uses as well.
Michael Jura: I see. Okay this question comes from Jonathan Davies, and it’s sort of related to what you just mentioned. When you are viewing these meetings in the Soviet Union, is there any way that they could engage a psychic spy who could also be at those meetings and detect when a remote viewer projects his awareness into the meeting?
Major Ed Dames: Actually, that was the case. They did know about us, and what they had was a Soviet extrasensor. The Russian extrasensor team was equivalent to our American sized spy unit.
The Russians did not know how to train this, they never discovered the protocols to do that, but what they did instead was they used very, very gifted natural psychics and trained them against US secret equipment and operations.
They would post one or two of those people at the meetings and if one of those people felt, right or wrong that they were being “pinged” so to speak by us, they would stop every body talking.
Michael Jura: Wow, that’s amazing, it reminds me of a story I read in one of the books by Robert Monroe, when he talked about how he was doing Astral traveling while vacationing in the Caribbean, and it turned out that during one of his travels he came across a CIA agent, and the CIA agent told him sorry, you can’t go any further the president is here; and it turned out that the president of the US, I can’t remember which
president it was at that time-
Major Ed Dames: It was Reagan. Bob came to me at one point in the program in the mid 80s and he was very disturbed, very, very upset because he could not sleep, because he felt that there were 3 Russian people that every time he tried to sleep, were looking at him.
Well, to make a long story short, I took my team and followed that back when back to Robert Munroe’s dream and looked back and it was indeed the Russians. The Russians were looking for the US psychic team, and what they found was Robert Munroe because we were using, my unit was using Bob Munroe’s gateway program to vet and assess recruits for our program.
We were spending so much time down there, with Bob, in his out of body, that the Russians felt that he was the commander!
Michael Jura: Wow.
Major Ed Dames: That’s why he couldn’t sleep, because the Russians kept pinging him thinking that he was in charge of the program, when in fact, we were using his program to assess whether or not people would be good for our own program.
Michael Jura: I see, wow. And did the Soviets ever, I mean did you get any death threats from the Soviet or did they ever try to recruit you over to their side–
Major Ed Dames: Oh no- in fact two things; what happened is at one point the operations officer, a civilian Ivan Sokolav who I later met after the cold war was over, my counter part. And that was an interesting meeting. He knew that we knew about them.
His team started to report back to him that the Americans are looking at us, and the Americans know we are looking at them.
Well neither I as the operations and training manager of the American unit; I didn’t tell my commander this, because I knew that if told him he would shut us down and Ivan Sokolav did not tell the Colonel that was in charge of the Russian extrasense program that we knew about them because they would be shut down, and we didn’t want our operations to cease.
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